'I WOULD ALWAYS DENY IT'
A JUROR: Ms. Lewinsky, did you ever discuss with the president whether you should delete documents from your hard drive, either at the office or at home?
THE WITNESS: No.
A JUROR: Nothing like that?
THE WITNESS: No.
A JUROR: Did you ever discuss with the president whether you should deny the relationship if you were asked about it?
THE WITNESS: I think I always offered that. I think I've always -- A JUROR: In discussions with the president?
THE WITNESS: In discussions -- I told him I would always -- I would always deny it, I would always protect him.
A JUROR: And what did he say when you said that? What kind of response did you receive?
THE WITNESS: I said that often. I -- in my head, I'm seeing him smile and I'm hearing him saying "That's good," or -- something affirmative. You know. Not -- not -- "Don't deny it."
SAFETY
A JUROR: Did you ever suggest to Linda Tripp that she delete e-mails or anything like that from her computer? THE WITNESS: Yes, I did. A JUROR: And did you tell her that you had done the same thing? THE WITNESS: Yes, I believe so. A JUROR: And did anyone ever suggest to you or tell you that you should do that? THE WITNESS: No. -ynwA JUROR: Did you tell Linda Tripp that anyone had suggested that to you? THE WITNESS: I don't think so. A JUROR: Okay. Thank you. A JUROR: Any others? A JUROR: In that end of that year timeframe, did you ever tell Linda Tripp that you felt physically at risk? THE WITNESS: I think so. I think I told her something about -- that -- that -- I said something about Mary Jo what's-her-name. A JUROR: Kopechne. THE WITNESS: Kopechne. And so -- I really didn't feel threatened, but I was trying to use anything I could to try to convince her not to tell. So that I thought that if she thought I was threatened and that was part of the reason, then she would maybe do the same. A JUROR: So you did not at any time feel that your personal security was at risk from that White House or anyone in the White House? THE WITNESS: No. I think that maybe there -- there -- maybe once or twice it had crossed my mind in some bizarre way because everybody's heard about the different -- you know, sure, there's the Marilyn Monroe theory. And so it -- but it was not -- it was not any factor of -- that related to my actions. A JUROR: So any discussion that you had about the whole topic with Linda Tripp would fall into what you were describing before as a little bit of fabrication? THE WITNESS: Yes. Yes. BY EMMICK: Q: If I could ask a follow-up on that, did your mother ever express any concerns about your safety? A: I think she might have, but it was sort of that -- I think it was more general. It might have been a more general sense.
CONTACT IN PUBLIC
EMMICK: There is a reference on page 5 to August 18th of '96, a Sunday, "Public function, president's 50th birthday party, limited intimate contact." . . . What does that mean? THE WITNESS: It's stupid. There was a cocktail reception for his -- he had this big 50th birthday party at Radio City Music Hall and there was a cocktail reception and at the -- when he came to do the rope line and he -- after he greeted me and talked to me, he was talking to a whole bunch of people in and around my area and I had -- can I stand up and show you?
EMMICK: Sure. Sure. THE WITNESS: Okay. If this is the rope line and here are all the people and the president's standing here, as he started to talk to other people, I had my back to him and I just kind of put -- put my hand behind me and touched him. This -- so -- MS. IMMERGUT: Q: Touched him in the crotch area? A: Yes. A JUROR: I didn't hear that. MS. IMMERGUT: Touched him in the crotch area. A JUROR: Oh. MS. IMMERGUT: And the response was yes. A JUROR: Okay.
A JUROR: Did anybody see you?
THE WITNESS: What? No. What's the question?
A JUROR: Did anybody see you?
THE WITNESS: No.
A JUROR: But there were people around. THE WITNESS: There were, but it was -- he was talking -- everybody was enamored with him. I'm sure everybody saw from Monday that -- and he was talking to different people and he -- he was always very close to me when -- whenever he'd do these rope lines and would sort of make a point of talking to me around -- you know, with other -- while other people were there and he'd usually hold my hand -- you know, sort of shaking hands and just -- would continue to just touch me somewhere. I mean, not -- not intimately, not --
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