ON TIES
Q: You mentioned, obviously, that you've given the president several gifts. Have you given him any ties? A: Yes.
Q: How many ties have you given him, just approximately?
A:Six.
Q: Have you had any conversations with the president about wearing your ties? A: Almost all of our conversations included something about my ties.
Q: Could you just briefly describe what things that you've said to him and he to you about wearing the ties?
A: I used to bug him about wearing one of my ties because then I knew I was close to his heart. Q: And did he ever say anything about -- after he had one of your ties or to alert you when he had worn any of your ties?
A: Yes, there were several occasions.
Q: And what kind of thing would he say to you?
A: "Did you see I wore your tie the other day?"
Q: So was he aware based on things you had told him that you would be looking out for when he would wear ties on various occasions? A: Yes.
Q: I'd like to show you now what's marked as Grand Jury Exhibits ML-8, 9 and 10. .. . Directing your attention first to ML-8, it's a photograph of the president, obviously. Do you recognize the tie that he's wearing in that photograph?
A: Yes, I do. Q: Had you actually seen that on television on June 24, 1998?
A: Yes, I did.
Q: Do you recall what that's in relation to or what event is being depicted on that photograph?
A: He was leaving for China.
Q: And now directing your attention to Exhibit 9, do you know what that's a photograph of? A: I don't know where it's from, but it's the president wearing my tie. Q: And this one states it's Monday, July 6, 1998. Do you remember watching any of the media on that date? A: Yes, I do. Q: And do you remember seeing him wearing your tie on that date?
A: Yes, I do. Q: Do you remember what event was taking place on that date that he was wearing your tie?
A: I don't, but I just saw it says "Medicare costs," so -- Q: Okay. And then finally. ML-10. Do you recognize what that's a photograph of? A: Yes. Q: And what is that? A:
The president wearing the same tie. Q: And do you know what date that is? A: Date? It was a few days after, he wore the tie when he came back from China, so it's July 9th.
Q: Okay. And what -- I guess -- did you reach any conclusions from the fact that he was wearing your tie on those days? A: I -- I -- I think -- the first time he wore the tie, I thought maybe it was a coincidence, but I didn't really think so.
COORDINATING SCHEDULES
(During questioning of Lewinsky by prosecutors on 7 - 30 - 98, Ms. Lewinsky said that she called Betty Currie to arrange a meeting with the president on May 24, 1997.
The prosecutors' notes show Lewinsky suggesting a deeper involvement by Currie than she had supposed before:)
"Currie said that she had to check Mrs. Clinton's schedule and said Mrs. Clinton was going to use the pool that day. This was the only time that Lewinsky actually knew that Currie had factored in the whereabouts of Mrs. Clinton with Lewinsky's visits to the president. Mrs. Clinton never saw Lewinsky in the Oval Office." THE SIGN-OFF
THE FOREPERSON: Basically what we wanted to leave with, because this will probably be your last visit to us, I hope, I hope I'm not going to have to do this any more and I hope you won't have to come here any more, but we wanted to offer you a bouquet of good wishes that includes luck, success, happiness and blessings.
THE WITNESS: Thank you. (The witness begins to cry.) I appreciate all of your understanding for this situation and your -- your ability to open your heart and your mind and -- and your soul. I appreciate that.
THE FOREPERSON: So if there's nothing else?
EMMICK: Nothing else.
THE FOREPERSON: We'd like to excuse you and thank you very much for your testimony.
THE WITNESS: Thank you.
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