Thursday, March 11, 1999
Firemen's discipline undecided
Hearing draws 200 people
BY CHRISTINE WOLFF
The Cincinnati Enquirer
UNION TOWNSHIP Trustees will meet at noon Friday to continue a disciplinary hearing for two firefighters who won't divulge sources of an improper-conduct complaint against a fire captain.
The hearing, which began Tuesday evening, ended after midnight with no decision. About 200 people attended the public portion of the hearing at the Clermont County township's administration building.
Township Administrator Kenneth Geis has recommended that trustees fire Lt. James Watkins and firefighter Spencer Thomas for insubordination and misconduct.
The charges stem from alleged behavior by Fire Capt. Jay Turpin, who is said to have, while in uniform, berated an employee in a local store. Other store employees who say they saw the incident told firefighters, who relayed the information to Lt. Watkins and Mr. Thomas.
Lt. Watkins is president and Mr. Thomas is secretary of Firefighters Local 3412. No previous disciplinary measures are noted in either man's personnel file.
Capt. Turpin, whose personnel file also contained no previous disciplinary measures, would not comment Wednesday.
The two investigated the alleged incident and determined that Capt. Turpin a township firefighter for more than 20 years should be disciplined. They took their results to Fire Chief Stan Deimling and Mr. Geis, who ordered them to name the firefighters who talked to the store employees.
Lt. Watkins and Mr. Thomas refused because they were acting as union officials and not performing fire department duties, said Terrell Snyder, the men's attorney.
Mr. Geis said Wednesday the men should be fired because they conducted an unauthorized investigation and refused to answer questions from him or Chief Deimling.
They needed to notify the chief (before beginning an investigation), Mr. Geis said. There's no presupposition that these people would be chosen to investigate it. ... They never reported the incident.
Tuesday's meeting upset Union Township resident Melissa Devany, who attended and left feeling that the firefighters should not be fired.
I absolutely 100 percent support the firefighters, she said. They (township officials) are trying to shoot the proverbial messenger. They are asking (the firefighters) to do something they just can't do.
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