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Transcript of 'Ask President
Bush' event in Dayton
The following is a transcript of the "Ask President Bush" event today at
the Hara Complex in
12:32 P.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all. Please be seated. Mind if I take off my coat?
I think I will. Listen, thank you all for coming. I'm thrilled to be here.
I'm sorry I'm a little late. I got a little windy up in Toledo. (Laughter.)
But I appreciate you coming by for what we call a conversation. I'm going to
talk a little bit. Some fellow citizens here are going to talk a little bit
about their lives, in order to better illustrate our vision for an America
that is safer and stronger and better.
(Applause.) And if we've got some time, I'll answer some questions. Then I
got to get on the bus. (Laughter.) The bus driver said, if you talk too long,
I'm pulling out of here. (Laughter.)
I'm here to let you know that I want to serve as your President for four
more years. (Applause.) Thank you all. I want to tell you why. I'm here to
explain the reason why. We've got a job to do, a job to make sure this country
is as safe as it can be, as strong as it should be, and as compassionate as
it will be.
I'm also here to let you know that I need your help, that I need your help
in convincing your neighbors to register to vote, to do their duty as Americans
to vote. And don't be afraid to talk to people from the other party, or people
who may not be affiliated with any party, because our message is positive and
optimistic and hopeful for every single American.
The good news is, Laura W. Bush wants to serve for four more years, as well.
(Applause.) I regret she's not here. I talked to her on the plane earlier this
morning. She said to send her very best. She is a -- I'm a lucky guy. She's
a great wife, a wonderful mother, and a fabulous First Lady of the United States.
(Applause.) She's come to recognize what I know about the job, is that we can
make a difference in people's lives, a positive difference. She is very much
involved with encouraging teachers to teach; say to people, look, if you're
looking for a second career, say, if you served in the military and you're
looking for something to do, get into the classroom and make a difference in
some child's life. She understands the importance of reading. She was a public
school librarian when I met her. She didn't like politics, and she didn't like
(Laughter.) Look where she is. (Laughter.)
She can speak to freedom and the importance of freedom in societies like
-- she has the ability to speak to the women of Afghanistan like she did on
a radio broadcast. Listen, Laura understands what I know; it's a high privilege
to serve the people of this country, and it's a fantastic opportunity to make
the country as best as it can possibly be. She sends her best. She is -- look,
the best reason to put me back in there is so she's got four more years. (Laughter
When you're out talking to your neighbors, remind them that I have put together
a really good team to serve the country -- people from all walks of life, men
and women in positions of high responsibility, people from different backgrounds,
people who are honorable citizens who have come to serve not their self-interest,
but to serve our country. I got a great Vice President I'm running in Dick
Cheney. (Applause.) I remember being at a rally with my mother -- Mother is
still, you'll be happy to hear, a little feisty and outspoken at times. (Laughter.)
I said, Dick Cheney is the finest Vice President our country has ever had.
(Laughter.) You imagine what Mother said. (Laughter.)
I appreciate Congressman Dave Hobson for being here today. Where are you,
Big Dave? Thank you, sir. Glad you're here. (Applause.) A fine member of the
House, a strong ally and a good man, appreciate you coming, Dave. I want to
thank Congressman Mike Turner. (Applause.) I see you, Mike. I'm proud you're
here, Mike. I know Jennette Bradley is with us, and Joe Deters, members of
the state -- there they go. Good to see you all. Thanks for coming, Governor
and Joe. (Applause.) Majority Whip Jeff Jacobson, and State Rep. John Husted
-- where are you both? (Applause.) Oh, there they go. Thought you'd get a better
seat than that. (Laughter.) Sign up a few more volunteers. (Laughter.)
Listen, I want to thank Bob Bennett, the Ohio party chairman. I want to thank
all the grassroots activists that are here. I need your help. I'm going to
say it again. I'm here really to say, let's get after it. I want to win. I
want to do everything I can to make sure this country is as safe as it can
possibly be. And that's my most solemn duty. It was a duty that came home loud
and clear on September the 11th, 2001. My job is to rally our government to
protect Americans from harm.
And we're working hard to do so. We changed the whole attitude in Washington
about sharing intelligence between agencies, or buttoning up the country as
best as we possibly can. I think they're doing a darn good job at the airports.
I know it's inconvenient, but it's all part of doing our duty to make this
country secure. We have to be correct a hundred percent of the time in order
to protect America; the enemy has got to be right once. Which really says that
the best way to secure the homeland is to chase these killers down, one at
a time, and bring them to justice.
I've got a plan to win the war on terror. We're making progress. We're not
in this battle alone. First, just understand the nature of the war. Some say,
well, this is just a matter of law enforcement and intelligence. No, that's
not what it is. It's an issue that requires all our assets. It's an issue that
requires the nature of the enemy if we're going to be able to solve the problem.
These are cold-blooded killers. They could care less about innocence or guilt.
They have no conscience. There's no need to negotiate with them. You can't
convince them of the error of their ways. This country must be strong and resolute,
and we must never falter in the face of this enemy if we expect to secure the
It is essential that America lead through strength on this issue, lead by
using all the assets we have at our disposal, not just some. It is important
that when an American President speaks, he means what he says.
(Applause.) It's important for the President to be clear in his language and
resolute in the intention. That's when I said that -- for example, when I said,
if you harbor a terrorist, you're just as guilty as the terrorist -- once you
say that, you better be willing to act on it. We were willing to act on it,
and now the Taliban is no longer in power in Afghanistan. (Applause.)
Part of the war on terror is chasing al Qaeda down, and about two-thirds
of their known leaders have been brought to justice, which is positive. The
rest of them -- the rest of them know we're breathing down their neck. Part
of the war is to make sure there's no safe haven. And so, by removing the Taliban
out of Afghanistan and introducing democracy into this country, al Qaeda lost
safe haven. But something else happened that's incredibly important for our
-- particularly the young to understand. The Taliban were incredibly barbaric
people. They were so backward that many young girls never got to go to school.
That's hard to envision, isn't it, for an American to say, gosh, what is it
like to live in a country where young girls are denied an education? But that's
the way they were. So not only do we deny safe haven, not only we do what we
said we're going to do, but now young girls have a chance to succeed in Afghanistan,
thanks to the United States of America and our friends and allies. We're liberators.
We care deeply about human freedom and the human condition. (Applause.)
The President must always remember the lessons learned from September the
11th. And here's the lesson learned for this country, that when we see a threat,
we cannot let it gather; that if we see a threat to our security, we can no
longer hope it goes away. We can no longer say, gosh, maybe the tyrant will
change his mind. We don't have that luxury anymore. September the 11th taught
us that we must deal with threats before they fully materialize.
I saw a threat in Iraq and -- by looking at the intelligence. Congress, by
the way, looked at the same intelligence, the same intelligence I looked at.
They saw a threat. The United Nations Security Council looked at the intelligence,
and it saw a threat. The threat we saw was based upon not only the intelligence,
but based upon the prior behavior of Mr. Saddam Hussein, a person who clearly
hated America. He's a person that had used weapons of mass destruction against
his own people and against people in his neighborhood. He's a person that had
terrorist ties. After all, he's the person that paid suiciders money to blow
up innocent lives in the Middle East. He was a tyrant to his own people.
No, we saw a threat, and the United Nations Security Council, if you remember,
said, disarm or face serious consequences. That's what the U.N. Security Council
said, with America's vote. When America says something, it better mean it.
And so when we said, disarm, to Saddam Hussein, we meant it. He chose defiance
once again. He refused to comply with the demands of the free world. Given
his history, given the fact that he was a madman, I was faced with the choice
of either take his word or defend America. I will defend America every time.
First of all, if any of you have a loved one in the military, I want thank
you for your patience and your understanding. And I want to thank them for
their sacrifice and service. (Applause.)
The world is better off without Saddam Hussein in power. (Applause.) And
so are the Iraqi people. They long to be free. (Applause.) They want to be
free. Moms and dads in Iraq want to raise their children in a peaceful world.
They want their children, just like we want our children, to grow up and realize
dreams and aspirations. That's what they want. There's a few people there who
are trying to stop the advance of freedom. And that's what we're facing.
It's tough work. It's been a hard couple of months for the American people.
But I want you to know what I've told family members of -- who have lost a
loved one: Your son or daughter sacrificed for something incredibly important,
which is freedom and peace. A free society in Iraq will lead to a more peaceful
world. Not only have we removed a threat to America, but we now have a chance
to spread freedom into a part of the world that is desperate for freedom.
Free societies are peaceful societies. Free societies are hopeful societies.
The long-term interest of this country, the long-term interest of the world
revolve around whether or not we have the courage and the resolve and the determination
to spread freedom in the Middle East, starting in Iraq. We have that resolve.
We have a plan -- we have a plan to make Iraq more secure. Our troops will
get what they need to do their job. Our troops will receive the help. And we
have a plan to turn over sovereignty to the Iraqi -- to Iraqi entity. That's
what we said we're going to do. When America speaks, it's got to mean what
it says. Everybody is watching us. Everybody is watching.
I love to tell the story about a dinner with Prime Minister Koizumi. Maybe
this will help put this in perspective. Prime Minister Koizumi is the Prime
Minister of Japan. And we were having dinner in Tokyo, and we were talking
about how we can work together to make the world more peaceful, starting with
how to make sure the Korean Peninsula is peaceful by keeping pressure on Kim
Jong-il not to develop a nuclear weapon. See, the mutual goal is not to --
to keep the Korean Peninsula nuclear weapons free. That's important. You can
imagine. Kim Jong-il is a tyrant. He's a danger. Here I was talking to the
Prime Minister of a country that was at war with the United States, had attacked
our country, and it dawned on me that had we gotten it wrong after World War
II, I might not have been having this conversation about how to keep the peace.
Also, during the conversation, I realized that when we get it right in Iraq
-- and we will
-- when Iraq is free, someday an American President will be having the discussion
with the duly-elected official of Iraq about how to work together to bring
peace in a troubled region of the world.
What we're doing is historic in nature. We have a chance to change the world
for the better. We have a chance to spread freedom in parts of the world that
are desperate for freedom. And as a result, America will have short-term security
and long-term security.
Let me tell you something about freedom. It's a cornerstone of our foreign
policy. One of the reasons I believe I need to be your President for four more
years is because I understand that freedom is not America's gift to the world.
Freedom is the almighty God's gift to each man and woman in this world. (Applause.)
Thank you all.
A stronger -- a stronger America is also important for our future. I have
a vision, a clear vision, as to how to keep our country strong. It starts with
making sure the economy is strong. And I've got to tell you, I'm one optimistic
fellow about our economy. And the reason why is I know what we have overcome.
We've overcome a lot. Think about what this country has been through in the
last three years. We've been through a recession that started in early 2001.
That means we were going backwards. It's hard to be a worker in an industry
that has been beset by recession. It's hard to be a small business owner if
you're worried about the future. It was a negative period of time.
We started overcoming that and the enemy hit us, and that hurt our economy,
too. It not only changed how we've got to view the world, it hurt our economy.
It just did. And then we started coming out of that and we realized there were
some citizens in our country who forgot what it meant to be responsible citizens.
In other words, they didn't tell the truth. We had some corporate wrongdoers.
We had a corporate scandal that shook our confidence. When you can't believe
the numbers you're reading, if you're an investor or a worker, an employee,
or an officer, it shakes your confidence about the American system. We dealt
with it. We passed tough laws and made it clear we're not going to tolerate
dishonesty in the boardrooms of America. (Applause.)
As well, the march to war in Iraq affected capital markets and affected the
optimism of the country. Imagine seeing on your TV screens the word, "March
to War," America is marching to war. And if you're a planner or a small
business owner, or somebody looking for work, it's a pretty negative environment
in which to be making decisions. No, marching to war is not a positive thought.
We're now marching to peace. And yet, we've overcome all those obstacles in
a short period of time. This economy of ours today is strong, and it's getting
stronger. And the question is, how do we keep it strong as we go into the next
I say it's strong -- first quarter growth was 4.2 percent. That's strong.
That's good. I say it's strong -- we increased jobs nationwide by 308,000 in
the month of March. New jobs here in Ohio are increasing in the
month of March. I say it's strong -- today there's a report out that
showed the factory orders is up by 4.3 percent, the largest order increase
in two years. In other words, there's indication after indication -- it's strong.
More people -- the home ownership rate is the highest it's ever been in our
nation's history. That's good. We want more people owning something. This administration
understands that if you own something, if you own your business, if you own
your home, you're going to have a vital interest in the future of this country.
No, the indications are good. There are still people who hurt, and I understand
that. There are people in parts of Ohio who haven't felt the recovery yet.
But we're getting better. And we've got to make sure we have pro-growth policies.
I'm running because I want to make sure the pro-growth agenda doesn't get disrupted.
What do you mean by that? Well, I believe strongly that one of the reasons
why this economy is as strong as it is is because we cut taxes.
(Applause.) We're going to hear from some couples in a minute about what
-- a couple -- about what it meant to cut taxes. But we cut taxes. Let me tell
you, when you have more money in your pocket, it generally increases demand
for a good or a service. And when demand goes up, somebody is going to meet
that good or a service, which means somebody is more likely to have a job or
to find work. That's what that means. It was an important part
-- I like to tell people that this economic we're seeing is the result of tax
relief -- partially because of tax relief. And it shows that the American people
are spending their money far better than the federal government would have.
Some in Washington don't like that rhetoric. They think the federal government
can spend it better than you can. That's just a difference of opinion. You
better be careful in a campaign if somebody starts promising spending. Heck,
we've got six months the go and the fellow I'm running against is already over
a trillion dollars in new programs. We're counting them up. He says he's going
to pay for it by tax on the rich. You can't tax the rich enough to pay for
all his promises. So guess who's going to pay. You're going to pay. And we're
not going to let him do that, though. That would be terrible for the economy.
The American people don't need a tax increase. (Applause.)
The question is, who has got the vision to make sure this country is the
strongest economic nation in the world. I'm already -- see, the way to make
sure we're strong and people can find work is to make sure this is the best
place to do business in the world, this is the best place for people to risk
capital, this is the best place for people to realize their dreams by starting
their own business. That's what this campaign is about in the future -- means
we better get tort reform, better make sure that we do not have frivolous or
junk lawsuits that make it difficult for people to be able to make a living.
And that includes medical liability reform. In order to make sure that we
can grow our economy, in order to make sure people are able to feel comfortable
about expanding their job base, we've got to do something about the cost of
health care. Frivolous and junk lawsuits run up the cost of health care. They
make health care more -- less affordable, and less accessible. The Congress
needs to act. You need a President who is willing to push for medical liability
reform in Washington, D.C.
We need to continue to promote health savings accounts, which make sure that
customers and docs have got the -- patients and docs have got the proper relationship.
We want the patient-doctor relationship to be the center of decision-making
in health care, not federal bureaucracy. We want to promote association health
care plans to make sure small businesses are able to better afford health care.
Listen, the decision has got to be to make sure this is a good place to do
business, and that the ingredients are available for the entrepreneurial spirit
to be strong. That's why we need an energy plan. We don't have an energy plan.
It's stuck in the United States Congress. We need a plan that promotes alternative
sources of energy.
Look, I'd love to be the President someday to be able to say, the corn crop
is good; therefore, we're less dependent on foreign sources of energy. I'd
like to be able to grown energy, but it's going to take a while to get the
research and development to kick in. We need alternative sources of energy.
We need to promote clean coal technology. We need to use the resources we've
We ought to be exploring for more natural gas at home. We ought to be using
our technology to encourage the spread of state nuclear power. We ought to
be on all fronts, making sure we -- (applause.) But my point is this. My point
is this: We can encourage conservation; we can encourage reliable supplies
of energy, and we must do so to become less dependent on foreign sources of
energy. If we expect to be competitive, we've got to have an energy plan. (Applause.)
Two other things I want to talk about right quick -- one is there's a lot
of talk about trade. I'm going to tell you something. I need to be President
to reject economic isolationism from taking hold in America. We should not
isolate ourselves from the world. That would be bad for workers; it would be
bad for long-term economic growth.
Presidents before me have made the decision to open up or markets, so consumers
benefit from trade. You see, if you're a consumer here in America, and you've
got different options from which to choose, you're generally going to get better
price and better quality. That's the way the economy works. But what hasn't
happened is foreign markets haven't opened up like ours have.
The message I give to the American people is, in order for us to grow our
job base and to stay competitive and stay strong is for us not to fear competition,
but to welcome it, so long as there's a level playing field. We can compete
with anybody. Our workers are productive. Our farmers and ranchers are great.
Our high-tech industry is imaginative and strong. The policy of government
ought to be to open up new markets for American entrepreneurs and business
people and farmers and ranchers. We can compete with anybody, any time, anywhere.
Government must put good policy in place that encourages the spread of innovative
technology. My dream is for everybody in America to have broadband technology
in their home by the year 2007. This is -- broadband technology, if done right,
is going to revolutionize education and health care. It will make this society
more entrepreneurial, make the people of America more productive. It's a great
way -- a great opportunity. We had a good break. The Senate passed a moratorium
on access taxes to broadband. My view is there ought to be not any taxes on
broadband. If you want it to spread across the country, don't tax it. Plus
we got to get rid of regulatory hurdles so that it spreads around. Innovative
society -- an innovative society is one that's necessary for us to compete,
but there are
-- there are problems with an innovative society. We're going to talk a little
bit about the opportunities and the challenges that an innovative society provides.
Let me put it to you this way: Technology races through our economy and it
makes us more competitive. There are new ideas, but workers lag. Some industries
are old. Some new industries spring up. But the transition from the old industry
to the new industry is a difficult transition for many of our workers. We will
not be a productive leader in the world if we don't get our education systems
On the one hand, we got to make sure our youngsters learn to read and write
and add and subtract early, before it is too late. And that's why the No Child
Left Behind Act -- (applause.) The No Child Left Behind Act that I had the
honor of signing is a really good start. We're challenging the soft bigotry
of low expectations. We're shutting down this business of simply shuffling
kids through the system. We're making sure they learn to read early, before
it's too late, and they're getting help if they need help. We're going to raise
the bar. We're going to make sure every child from every background gets as
good an education as possible.
But you've got to also understand there are workers in this world who are
working for companies that -- where the job base is dwindling. And yet, there
are also jobs in the neighborhood. And we need to use the community college
system in a wise way, to make sure that we train people for the jobs of the
21st century. We'll talk about this in a minute. But what I'm telling you about
-- a vision that understands America's role in the world is one that says,
education is the cornerstone -- practical education, to make sure the workers
get the training they need to be productive workers as our economy transition
to the 21st economy -- 21st century economy.
Finally, let me tell you about how to make America a better place. The President
has got to understand the proper role between government and compassion --
between -- the proper role between government and the strength of the country.
The strength of this country is the hearts and souls of the American citizens.
That's our strength.
The government is not a loving organization. I'm sure there's loving people
in government. I'm one. (Laughter.) But government, itself, is not loving.
Government is law and justice. Love comes when somebody, a soul, says, what
can I do to make my community a better place? What can I do to mentor a child?
What can I do to love my neighbor just like I'd like to be loved myself? I
need to be President for four more years to rally that spirit, to call upon
that great strength of America so our society changes one heart, one soul,
one conscience at a time. (Applause.)
Let me talk a little bit about some of the people I've had the honor of meeting.
I met the Berkeys, Kim and Becky. They're with us today. Kim is a cargo handler
at Menlo Forwarding. Is that right? Yes. And Becky is with him, his wife. They
-- they're a tax -- I call them a tax family. The reason why is because they
saved money, $1,900, from the tax cut. That's $1,900 of their own money they
get to keep, not like the government
-- (applause.) And it's $1,900 this year, too.
See, we raised the child credit to $1,000, which helped people raise families.
It's an important part of the tax relief. We reduced the marriage penalty.
We got a tax code that penalizes marriage. It seems to me it sends the wrong
signal. We ought to be encouraging marriage and family, not penalizing marriage.
They saved $1,900. It's a lot of money to them -- at least that's what they
told me. If Congress doesn't act, there's going to be a tax increase on these
folks. It doesn't make any sense, does it, to be raising taxes on them at this
point when the economy begins to grow. And $1,900, it gives them more money
to pay down credit. It gives them more money to take care of their family.
Is that right? What did you do with all that money?
MR. BERKEY: Well, mostly we used it just to pay off some bills, much like
most of our friends, because raising a family is very expensive nowadays. I
brought my three children. And, as you can see, just feeding them guys took
most of that $800. (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: Good looking family you got there. (Applause.) Thanks for
If they don't move -- Congress doesn't move, they're going to have an increase
of about $900 taxes. I don't know what that would do to you. I'm not a lawyer,
but that's a leading question, isn't it? (Laughter.) Go ahead. Speak up, Mom.
MRS. BERKEY: Any kind of an increase is just going to make things tighter.
You know, I like to have the money here.
THE PRESIDENT: See, we've got money in Washington. We just have to set our
priorities. I've laid out a plan to cut this deficit in half in five years.
But Congress is going to have to be careful about how they spend your money.
It's a plan that prioritizes the military, prioritizes defending the homeland.
But it's a plan that says to Congress, you know, be wise about using the people's
money. I don't have to worry about these two Congressmen. They're wise about
the money. But we don't need to be taking money out of these people's pockets,
see? We don't need a bunch of promisers in Washington, D.C. who say, well,
I better fulfill my promise by taxing these good folks. It's not only bad for
them, it's bad for the overall economy.
Taking $900 out of their pocket affects the economy. And we're beginning
to grow and require -- what this nation needs is a person who understands how
economies grow. Governments don't make economies grow, people make economies
grow. And these people need to get their money --
Thank you all for coming.
When you're talking to your friends and neighbors about the tax rhetoric,
remind them that an essential part of a vibrant economy is the small business
sector. Seventy percent of new jobs are created by small business owners in
America. That's pretty good, isn't it? So if you're worried about job creation
in Ohio, you better stay focused on small business owners. (Applause.)
And we've got an owner with us. Dave Dysinger owns his own business. Isn't
that exciting to hear -- I own -- can you imagine saying, I own my own business?
It's exciting words for the entrepreneur, I own my business. It's my business,
he owns his. And I just want to -- you've just got to tell your neighbors the
truth about the tax relief. When you cut rates, overall rates for everybody,
you're really affecting small business, because most small businesses are sole
proprietorships or sub-chapter S corporations. So when you hear people say,
I'm going to tax the rich, really what they're saying -- they may try to tax
the rich. The rich generally have good accountants so they don't get taxed
much, and the small businesses will take the brunt of the tax-the-rich scheme.
And that hurts our economy.
Dave, tell us about your business.
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MR. DYSINGER: We are back in a growth cycle. We're up to 21 employees now.
We expect to hire 10 more, and 20 next year. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: There you go.
MR. DYSINGER: So we're moving.
THE PRESIDENT: We care about outsourcing in America. We want people working
here. But the wrong policy would have been, let's go through economic isolationist
policy, let's wall us off from the world. Instead, the right policy was to
stimulate growth at home.
See, he's helping make my point. My point is, let us be confident about ourselves.
Let's put the right policies in place that encourage growth at home. Here's
a fellow that his business dropped, and it's now on the upswing. Did you notice
he said he's going to hire 10 people this year? There's a lot of Daves in America.
There's a lot of small businesses who are feeling the way he's feeling. Seventy
percent of new jobs are created by the small business sector of the economy,
and you just heard an entrepreneur say -- 10 this year, 15 next year? Twenty
MR. DYSINGER: Twenty next year.
THE PRESIDENT: Do I hear 25?
MR. DYSINGER: I hope. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Not yet. (Applause.) I want Dave to explain his investment
strategy. Are you going to make any investments?
MR. DYSINGER: Yes, to make room for the people, we're going to have to add
facility, so we expect to double our facility size this year. And we need to
buy -- we're going to buy some used machinery and some new machinery. We expect
to spend probably $2 million over the next 12 months.
THE PRESIDENT: Let me tell you about the connection between what he just said
-- and by the way, part of his decision-making was because he's optimistic
about expanding. I suspect part of his decision-making had to do with the
bonus depreciation you got in the tax bill. In other words, there was an
incentive to encourage people to invest.
MR. DYSINGER: That's right.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, see. That's a leading question. (Applause.) I already
knew the answer. But let me -- let me -- (laughter) -- but the reason I bring
that up is that when you hear Dave say he's going to buy some equipment or
invest, somebody has got to make the equipment. In other words, he said, I
want to -- I'm increasing demand for equipment. And somebody is going to responds
to his demand. And when they make the equipment, somebody has got to be employed
to do so. And if the person making the equipment has got more orders than the
previous year, it may mean that he is expanding, as well.
So here is Dave saying, I'm expanding, I need to invest. The person who he
is buying from also may be now in a position to -- and that's how the economy
works. It starts with influencing the decisions -- in this case, of a small
business entrepreneur -- by good tax policy, and I think having a good economic
policy to be optimistic and confident about our future. And it's his decision
-- not the government's decision -- it's his decision that stimulates further
economic growth and vitality.
I want to thank you for being an entrepreneur. I wish you all the best in
your business. (Applause.)
MR. DYSINGER: I'd like to thank you also. The fact is, I'm proud and grateful
to be an American. And I am very thankful for the leadership you bring to us
here in these hard times. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, sir. Thank you all. (Applause.) Thank you all.
(Applause.) Let me -- thanks, thanks a lot, Dave. I'm glad I invited you. (Laughter.)
I mentioned the role of community colleges. We've got a plan called the Jobs
for the 21st Century, and an integral part of that is to make sure the WorkForce
Investment Act actually gets money to people who are looking for work. And
a key component of a job strategy has got to be to rely upon your asset base.
And we've got a great asset base at the community colleges. Community colleges
are flexible, they're affordable, they're available. And the thing I love about
community colleges, when they're run right they're able to match employer demand
with employees that want to work. In other words, they're able to train somebody
for jobs which actually exist. And part of our focus is to empower community
colleges to enter collaborative efforts with local employers.
If you happen to be on the Chamber of Commerce, by the way, and you've got
a community college around, use it to attract industry. People
want to make sure they've got trained workers -- use your community
We've got Steve Johnson with us. You probably think I'm going to pick him
because he got his Ph.D. from the University of Texas. No, that's not why we
got him. We got him because he's running Sinclair Community College in Dayton,
My fellow Texan -- no -- tell us about your community college.
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THE PRESIDENT: What he's telling you is, is that -- notice he mentioned Dave's
name -- he is available to design a curriculum that helps Dave, and at the
same time, helps the workers.
One of the interesting areas -- one of the things I find around the country
is that there's great demand in the health care field in America today. In
other words, old jobs are being replaced by new jobs.
Is that the case here, or not?
DR. JOHNSON: That's the case. In fact, a lot of the support that Sinclair
has received over the years from federal grants -- National Science Foundation,
Department of Labor grants, Department of Education grants -- has allowed us
to revamp and overhaul our curriculum, has allowed us to put in technology
training programs that are for today and for tomorrow.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. The federal government helps. It sets priorities. You
know, there's displaced workers -- money to help displaced workers. If a community
gets hit hard by a layoff, there's money available to help the community colleges
train people for jobs which exist. Part of the problem we have in America is
there are jobs that are available, and people just aren't trained to meet them.
The other interesting thing about our country and the economy today and where
the community college has a role is that we're becoming a more productive society
-- in other words, there's the premium on being a productive worker, which
requires different kinds of skill sets than you had in the past. In other words,
envision going from the shovel to the backhoe. You had to learn how to drive
the backhoe, and when you did, you're incredibly more productive than you were
with a shovel. It's that same equivalent that's taking place throughout our
economy right now. We're in a time of transition, and community colleges help
workers become more productive.
But productivity increases for a worker means higher pay. The more productive
a society you are, the more your standard of living goes up. And so one of
the things that we're going to talk about here in a minute is how a particular
individual can become more productive in going to the community college, and
then enhance her standard of living.
Have you got anything else you want to offer, Steve?
DR. JOHNSON: Just one other thing, President Bush --
THE PRESIDENT: I thought you had something on the tip of your tongue.
DR. JOHNSON: I just have one thing. You know how we are. I just want to say
that we really appreciate your support of community colleges and of Sinclair
Community College. And you are very complimentary, and you do know -- I want
to point out that it's the community leaders in this room that built Sinclair
Community College, maintain Sinclair Community College. And that's the story
across America -- local leaders building colleges to serve the needs of today
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, and that's the way it should be, by the way. The federal
government can help on targeted assistance. We can help with collaborative
efforts. But like public schools, community colleges need to be run by the
local folks. You don't want to federalize education.
Thank you. Okay, I want you to hear, I think, an amazing story. Nancy Scott
is with us. Nancy, thank you for coming. Mother of three. I think she's got
the toughest job in America, she's a single mother of three. That's hard work.
Nancy, tell us what you did, where you went to school and what you're doing.
* * * * *
THE PRESIDENT: Okay, let me stop you. Just be -- I know you're just getting
wound up and there's nothing worse than -- (Laughter.) She goes back to school.
First of all, government can't make Nancy Scott go back to school. She's
got to want to succeed, herself. She has a great spirit.
(Applause.) There's help available. Pell grants are important. I'm a big supporter
of Pell grants. It makes sense to help people go back to school.
And the third thing that you just heard her say is her income doubled. In
other words, she became a more productive worker. She gained new skills, skills
that are more applicable to the 21st century jobs that are now being created,
and her income doubled. People have got to understand that helping a worker
become more productive not only helps fill jobs, but more importantly, helps
the worker and her family, in this case, to double her income.
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MS. SCOTT: I would just like to add that other than that, my family and friends
here, and in New York, are praying for you, Mr. President.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, I appreciate you saying that.
MS. SCOTT: And we stand behind you.
THE PRESIDENT: Thanks a lot. I'm honored. Thank you for coming.
(Applause.) I appreciate you. (Applause.)
That's -- isn't that a fabulous story? See, that's the story of the 21st
century. We need to continue stories like this as we -- as our economy changes.
There are a lot of people like Nancy who want to -- who want to meet their
obligations and their responsibilities and want to be helped so they can become
productive. I love the story of Nancy Scott. I meet people like that all the
time. The community college is an essential part of making sure that we're
competitive in the future by enabling our workers, who are the best in the
world, to have the skills necessary to compete. That's what we're talking about.
Let me -- I'm fixing to go to -- fixing to get on the bus. I do want to answer
some questions before I get out of here. Here's your chance.
Q Yes -- my husband is serving in Iraq --
THE PRESIDENT: Your husband is in Iraq now.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. What's he doing?
Q He's with the civil affairs, and he supports you 100 percent
for being there. And I support you, and his family supports you for being there.
My question is, is there any plans of getting out the personnel vehicles
from the Vietnam era to help with the protection from the -- until the Humvees
THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
Q -- for their protection for the soldiers?
THE PRESIDENT: Right. The plan is to continue to upgrade the Humvees and to
bring in more Strykers. Look, I want you to know -- and, first of all, thank
your husband. But I want our troops to have the very best. This -- you hear
-- this is politics. It's kind of a political season, so you hear things
that -- people say things, like we don't want our soldiers to have the best.
But we put an $87 billion supplemental out there. A big chunk of that money
was to make sure we upgraded the equipment our soldiers were getting to make
them safe. That's a lot of money. It takes a while to get the Kevlar vests,
the latest Kevlar vests manufactured. We're distributing it. I supported
the $67 billion for the troops -- $87 billion overall.
I want to remind you what my opponent said about that. (Laughter.) He said
he voted for the $87 billion right before he voted against it.
(Laughter.) Look, we just need strong support for our troops. And I have a
solemn duty to say to you as squarely as I can, we will do the very best we
possibly can to make your loved one safe. That's what we owe the family members,
and that's what we owe the troops. (Applause.)
Q Mr. President, I consider it a great honor to be here today to
be with you. I am a retired educator, and, as you know, many of the people
in my profession profess to be very opposed to the things that the Republicans
are proposing. And I made a comment here earlier today to some friends that
if the educators will speak the truth, the real truth, we can teach every
child and not leave them behind. But it takes not just money, it takes the
backing of the family, it takes backing of the school, it takes of everyone
to make that child want to learn. And it's not dollars that's going to pull
him out the way the NEA says it is.
So as a retired principal of West Carrollton Junior High School, I support
your plan 100 percent, and I know many, many educators that support it, as
well. They're not all on the side of the NEA.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate you. Thanks for being in education. Thank
Let me say something. Look, the key is that we use curriculum that works.
The key is that we encourage our teachers. The key is we don't federalize public
schools. The key is, where we find failure, we address it. In order to address
failure, you've got to figure it out in the first place. That's why measuring
is so important.
There was a big battle over measuring when I was governor of Texas. There's
a battle over measuring when it comes to federal dollars. People don't want
to measure. Some people don't. How do you know if you don't measure? How can
you tell whether a child is just being shuffled through the system unless you're
willing to say, see if you can read -- early, by the way. You've got to test
early to determine whether or not a child has got the skills necessary to become
a productive citizen, which is reading. And if you find there's a deficiency,
we've got money in the budget to correct it early, before it's too late.
The whole cornerstone of the No Child Left Behind Act is this great sense
of possibility for every child. If you do not believe every child can learn
to read and write, then you say it's okay not to measure. If you believe every
child can learn to read and write, you want to measure to determine if they
can. And if so, you reward the schools that are meeting expectations, and if
not, you change. (Applause.)
I appreciate that.
Q Mr. President, would you please sign this? (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. (Applause.) In a minute. (Laughter.)
Q The question is, due to your administration, our business has
turned around phenomenally. The last two months have been record months. But
where we're taking a hit, as is a steel industry, the prices are sky-rocketing.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. Well, I understand. And the reason why is because the
world is recovering. You see, when demand -- worldwide demand was depressed
for steel because there was slowness in the world, there was an oversupply.
And what's happened is, is that demand has outstripped supply because countries
like China are now demanding more steel. They're beginning to grow. The whole
world is beginning to grow. The United States is beginning to grow.
And I understand the pressures. Obviously, in a market-oriented world, which
I believe the world should be, there will be price-driven expansion. In other
words, there will be more steel producers or more steel coming on to meet the
increased demand. And I understand what you're going through. But just remember,
it wasn't all that long ago that the price of steel was at the bottom end of
the pricing structure. And we're going through a cycle now because the world
is expanding. Our exports are up, by the way. We want the world to expand.
We want there to be prosperity around the world. It makes -- it gives us a
better chance to sell what we make into other markets.
And so I understand where you're coming from. And I guess what I'm telling
you is there's cyclicality in the economy, particularly when it comes to steel
Yes? Go ahead and bring that plate over here. I can listen and sign at the
Q My name is Erica Keene. I'm eight years old. And what's the
funnest thing to be -- about being President? (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: The funnest thing is this: making decisions that make the
world a better place. (Applause.) I've got to make a lot of decisions -- some
of them you'll see, and some of them you don't see -- which means that, in
order to make good decisions, you better know what you believe, you better
stand on principle.
Secondly, in order to make good decisions, I've got to listen to smart people.
I like to be around smart, intelligent, capable people. I like to walk into
a roomful of people like Condi Rice -- (applause) -- Dick Cheney or Don Rumsfeld
or Colin Powell. (Applause.) I like to tell people the Oval Office is the powerful
place. People will stand outside the Oval Office, and they say, I can't wait
to get in there and tell him what for. And then they open the door, and they
walk in this majestic shrine to democracy, and they're overwhelmed by the atmosphere.
And they say, man, you're looking beautiful, Mr. President. (Laughter.) Which
means, you better have people around you who tell you the truth. (Laughter.)
A decision-maker must be willing to listen, must be willing to count on others
to give good, solid advice. As you go out and gather the vote, remind people
I've put together a really fantastic team of citizens. And they're good and
honest folks, who are smart and capable.
The best thing about this job is making decisions that I think will influence
the world and the country in positive ways.
Let me talk to you real quick about history. I don't think a President, if
he does big things, will be around to see the history of his administration.
Oh, yes, there will be the subjective history; there will be the political
history; there will be the short-term history about an administration. But
you won't be able to see the big things that have
changed: the momentum of freedom in parts of the world that's desperate for
freedom; or a cultural change in the country, to see the ultimate effects of
a cultural change from one that -- a culture that said, if it feels good, just
go ahead and do it, and if you got a problem, blame somebody else, to a culture
in which each of understands we're responsible for the decisions we make in
So the idea -- the best part of this job is to set in motion big changes
of history. It's unbelievably exciting to be in a position to do that. That's
why I want to be the President for four more years. I see clearly where I want
to lead the country. I see the obligations we have as a great nation. We have
an obligation, where we see tyranny and slavery, to act. I don't mean militarily.
I mean using our influence to free people. We have the obligation to free people
from tyranny, and we have the obligation to free people from disease.
One of the things this country has done that I'm incredibly proud of is we're
leading the fight against HIV/AIDS on the continent of Africa, for example.
It is an incredibly important mission for this great and compassionate country.
Yes. You've written this question down. That's dangerous.
Q Yes, but that's because I'm a little nervous.
THE PRESIDENT: Okay, well, don't worry, it's just the President. And a huge
press corps. (Laughter.)
Q First of all, I want to say I'm very honored to be here with
you today. I brought my wife and my daughter with me.
THE PRESIDENT: Good. How old is the daughter? I'll just try -- I'm trying
to get you relaxed.
Q My daughter is 14. She right here.
THE PRESIDENT: Do not introduce a 14-year-old daughter. I keep telling you.
Q My daughter -- my wife, Debbie is over here.
THE PRESIDENT: Hi, Debbie. How are you? How is he doing so far? Okay, good.
Q First of all, Mr. President, thank you. I want to thank you
for being a man of faith. And as a fellow -- (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. (Applause.) Okay. He may have a question back there.
Q Wow. Anyhow, as a fellow man of faith, how has the faith,
first, affected you as a man? How has your faith affected you as President?
And further, how do you think faith will affect the outcome of the 2004 election?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. That's a good question. First, let me make this abundantly
clear to you, the job of the President is to promote a society in which people
are free to worship as they see fit. (Applause.) A valuable and cherished tradition
of America is that you can worship an Almighty if you want to, and you're just
as patriotic if you choose not to
-- that if you choose to worship, you can worship any religion that you choose.
My job is to make sure that that is a absolute part of the American society
From an individual perspective, as a person, I rely upon faith to give me
the strength necessary to do my job. One of the interesting parts of the job,
something that I discovered as President, is the fact that a lot of people
pray for me. That's a very humbling thought when you think about little old
me. People pray for George W. and his family. I don't ask; people just do.
(Applause.) And for that I'm grateful, incredibly grateful.
I believe in prayer, and I appreciate the prayers of people. I think the
2004 election will be determined by the American people's decision as to who
best can lead the country. That's what I think will determine the 2004 election.
I think it's the collective will of the people which make that determination.
Some people of faith will participate. Some who don't necessarily agree with
faith will participate. The question of the outcome of the race is who best
can describe as clearly as possible a positive and hopeful and optimistic future
for every single citizen of this country, regardless of their political party,
regardless of their background, regardless of their economic status. That's
what I think will determine the outcome of this election. (Applause.)
Yes, little guy way up there. My favorite dog is Barney.
(Laughter.) That wasn't your question, okay. I think this is going to have
to be the last question. I know, I'm sorry. Come on down the road to Lebanon.
Q Mr. President, do you like your job? And is it difficult at
THE PRESIDENT: I love my job, and that's why I want to do it for four more
years. I believe that -- (applause). A lot of jobs are tough, but that's what
makes them worthwhile. My job is the kind of job that you better know who you
are and where you're going in order to do it the right way. You can't kind
of fumble around with your value system on the people's time. You've got to
-- you've got to be rock solid in what you believe. (Applause.)
I tease and say I'm listening to my mother, as the President. Well, that's
part of what it means to be rock solid in your values. You get raised a certain
way, and that's just the way you are. And you show up and you do your job,
you tell people what you think, just make the best decisions you can possibly
make. You just can't worry about politics. I'm worried -- I am in the political
arena. I'm obviously anxious about this election; otherwise I wouldn't be here
asking for the vote. I'm anxious for it to get started. I like to campaign.
I like to be with people. But I'm not going to change. I'm not going to change
my principles. I'm not going to change my value system in order to win the
I want to thank you all for coming. May God bless. Thank you all. Thanks
for being here. Thanks, everybody. Glad you're here. (Applause.)
Source: Office of the Press Secretary